Skip to content

The Joke Part II

March 17, 2008
by

The Joke Part I 

From the Joke Part II:

“The focus of our spring campaign will be the Declaration Against Genocide, which we will ask campus groups to sign. Specifically we are asking all campus groups to repudiate the genocidal passage within Islam’s sacred texts which reads: “The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said: ‘The time [of judgment and resurrection] will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews and kill them; until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!’” (Sahih Muslim book 41, no. 6985)

Christians have distanced themselves from far less ominous passages in their religious tradition because of the terrible consequences that have flowed from misguided beliefs.

The terrorist groups Hamas and Hezbollah are Islamic parties who have dedicated themselves to the destruction of the Jews. We are asking campus groups to condemn Hamas and Hezbollah as terrorist organizations and to repudiate their Jew-hatred, including the Hamas charter which says: “Israel will exist and will continue to  exist until  Islam  will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.” Signers of the Declaration will also be asked to condemn and repudiate the Iranian dictator Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who has said “The accomplishment of a world without America and Israel is both possible and feasible.”

These are hateful doctrines that threaten the lives not only of Jews, but of Christians and secularists as well. While Israel is condemned as “the Little Satan,” America is targeted as “the Great Satan” – the incarnation of evil.  The genocidal hatred of Islamo-fascists is aimed at all Americans.

We are therefore launching a “Stop the Genocide” campaign which will be the focus of our activities this spring and the theme of Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week on April 7-11. During this campaign, we will be calling on campus groups to affirm the equal dignity of all men and women and the right of all people to live free from violence, intimidation, and coercion.”

First off, I need an explanation.  I need to know exactly how this was done: “Christians have distanced themselves from far less ominous passages in their religious tradition because of the terrible consequences that have flowed from misguided beliefs.” 

Secondly, I need to know why one must distance themselves from a prophecy of the last day?  Unless, of course, you’re hearing trees and stones speaking to you, I really don’t see why this is an issue (and by the way if you are hearing trees and stones speaking, please go here). 

Now, let’s really get to what is at the crux of the matter and that is Hezbollah, Hamas, and Al Mahawhateverhisnameis.  These are political organizations/figures that are not speaking in the name of Islam.  They have their agendas, they have their goals and aspirations (national) but that doesn’t mean that Muslims are looking to these organizations/figures for religious and moral guidance.

Let’s first tackle this statement: ““Israel will exist and will continue to  exist until  Islam  will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.””  Israel as a state exists, that we know and it will continue to exist unless some agreement is reached for a one state solution, which is highly, highly unlikely.  Personally, I don’t see the statement that Israel will exist until Islam obliterates it as a statement that this will be brought on by blood.  However, I do, as a Muslim denounce the statement that Islam will obliterate it, because no matter how you look at it – if the statement is supposed to imply that such action will come through a genocidal campaign (which it does not state) or whether it is to imply that Islam, as in a collective Muslim diplomatic effort will bring this about is a false statement – the only way Israel will cease to exist is through a UN resolution, such as the one that created it.

As for Al Muhawhateverhisnameis statement of course it is denounced.

Now, ask me to sign something that states ““Stop the Genocide Declaration” well, Dude!, that ain’t never gonna happen.  It just blows my mind whenever anyone tries to associate genocide with the Palestinian/Israeli conflict.  I’m sorry but the numbers just don’t justify the use of the word “genocide” attempted or not.  You can’t even use the word ethnic cleansing when it comes to what is being done in Israel when you take the of the number of deaths into consideration that have occured throughout this conflict, let alone genocide.  Is anyone even aware of what is happening to Gaza civillians as this is being read?  And terrorismawareness.org has the gall to spearhead an “Islamo-fascism Awareness” week under the guise of genocide against Israelis and Americans?

So when this organization attempts:

“We are asking the Muslim Students
Association and other campus groups — Students for Justice in Palestine, the International Socialist
Organization, the College Democrats, the Revolutionary Communist Party and the Worker Student
Alliance, peace groups and civil rights groups — to sign the “Declaration Against Genocide” which
explicitly condemns these genocidal statements and the terrorist activities of jihadist groups.”

and then claims that they will:

“A “sit-in” outside the offices of the Muslim Students Association or in the Student
Activities Center if the MSA and other groups refuse to sign the Declaration Against
Genocide”

What do we think is going to happen?  If I, someone who is utterly amazed by the silence and often accepted reaction to suicide bombings like in this post, abhor the way in which these organizations (like Hamas) have been trying to instill hate as in this post, and have on numerous occasions fought at other blogs in terms of what is acceptable in terms of fighting in this conflict (regardless of whether they have the weapons to fight or not) would not sign such a declaration I think it’s safe to assume that the MSA’s won’t sign it either – how can they – they speak for a diverse community.

If you didn’t follow the link to Joke I, then let me give you a little excerpt from the Think Progress article it redirects to:

“The tactics encouraged by Horowitz and his followers, however, are intentionally fashioned to stoke negative reactions from moderate Muslims “as evidence that they’re on the side of ‘our terrorist adversaries.’” For instance, Horowitz is distributing a “student guide” that encourages participants to draft offensively-worded petitions in an intentional effort to stir divisiveness on campuses by forcing groups to “declare their allegiances“:

Perhaps most importantly, a petition forces students and faculty to declare their allegiances: either to fighting our terrorist adversaries or failing to take action to stop our enemies. For this reason, we encourage you to make a special effort to bring this petition to those groups who might be least likely to sign it, for example to campus administrators, student government officers, and the Muslim Students’ Association.”

As Ali Eteraz notes, “this ‘awareness’ week is not about awareness at all, but using anti-Muslim animus to achieve political ends” by attacking Horowitz’s true “enemy”: “the political left.”

You’d think that after being called on this the first time around that they’d change their tactics but I guess that’s asking for a bit too much brain power.

However, the real issue here is not who is not signing the declaration.  This time the focus needs to be placed upon those who ARE signing the declaration.  If one can not see the electrical charge of agenda within the context of this declaration then one has to wonder just where one’s alliegances are lying.  Are they supporting freedom of religion (as in the example of the hadith and the call for repudiating it)?  Are they able to support the statement “stop the genocide” within the context of the declaration and if they are – then the question has to be asked of them – why – because the numbers just do not constitute the use of the word.

So, this time I, as an American, have to ask the question – Are you with us or against us?

2 Comments leave one →
  1. March 18, 2008 2:09 am

    The hadith you site is one of those false and terrible hadiths that the Prophet (pbuh) never said, and were made up and added, to be used for political purposes long after he died and could not renounce it. This horrible statement…..

    “The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said: ‘The time [of judgment and resurrection] will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews and kill them; until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!’” (Sahih Muslim book 41, no. 6985)

    ….is so out of character for the kindness and fairness and gentleness of the Prophet (pbuh) that all true Muslims should repudiate it and denounce it as a false hadith.

    Ya Haqq!

  2. Sam permalink
    March 19, 2008 8:43 am

    “Secondly, I need to know why one must distance themselves from a prophecy of the last day? Unless, of course, you’re hearing trees and stones speaking to you, I really don’t see why this is an issue”

    This sounds a bit like that Canadian Muslim Congress leader saying the murder of Aqsa Parvez was just “domestic violence”…

    One does need to distance oneself from such nonsense because it encourages alienation of the Jews.

    ‘The time [of judgment and resurrection] will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews and kill them;’

    So I guess the crazies who want Judgment day would go about fighting and killing Jews.

    ‘;until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!’” (Sahih Muslim book 41, no. 6985)”

    If that isn’t an incitement to hatred and cold blooded murder, I don’t know what is! Talk about propaganda.

    Seriously! Horovitz et al. and their idiotic antics apart – Don’t tell me you believe in and/or support this nonsense “prophecy”!

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s

%d bloggers like this: